John Kiriakou on Jeffrey Epstein: Was He a Spy, and Did He Really Die by Suicide?

In this episode, I sit down to interview former CIA officer John Kiriakou. John discloses startling details about the CIA's operations, including the agency's high divorce rates, its involvement in torture practices, and the moral conflicts that arise from such duties. He recounts his personal journey from aspiring to be a spy, his experiences in Middle Eastern studies, and his rapid rise within the CIA ranks. John also shares his key roles in significant historical events, like briefing President George H. W. Bush about Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. The conversation delivers in-depth commentary on torture's ineffectiveness, the ethical dilemmas faced by intelligence officers, and John's three-year investigation and imprisonment for exposing the CIA's torture program. Lastly, John discusses controversial topics such as the mysterious death of Jeffrey Epstein and the JFK assassination. This episode promises to be one of the most important and eye-opening conversations about government and intelligence. At its core, The CARLOS Podcast is about resilience, fearlessness, and real truths we’re not supposed to say out loud. If we’ve made you pause, rethink, or feel a little more connected, become part of what we’re building. Here’s what you can do: 👉 Join our membership community for early access, bonus episodes, and extra moments. 👉 Grab something from the online shop to represent the community wherever you are. 👉 If you’re already a member, thank you, share this post with one person who loves real conversations. Join the community: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheCarlosPodcastShop: https://thecarlospodcast.com/collections/the-carlos-podcast-merch IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecarlospodcast/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/thecarlospodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thecarlospodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecarlospodcast X: https://x.com/carlospodcast 00:00 The CIA's Dark Secrets and High Divorce Rates 01:22 Carlos Watson Introduces John Kiriakou 01:52 John Kiriakou's Early Life and Aspiration to be a Spy 03:45 First Steps into the CIA and Early Career Highlights 07:10 The Gulf War and a Young Spy's Role 11:35 The Ethics of Torture and John Kiriakou's Stance 19:05 The Nicest Guy in the CIA 19:28 Debating the Ethics of Torture 20:19 Accusations and Defending Against Torture Claims 22:10 The Fallout: Investigations and Legal Battles 26:19 Life in Prison and Its Aftermath 28:57 The Impact of a High-Stress Job on Personal Life 34:24 Conspiracy Theories and Espionage 35:55 Reflections on Lying and Patriotism 36:14 Closing Remarks and Call to Action